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The Stroat Public House Is Long Gone!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/10/2014

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The Stroat Public House Is Long Gone!

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Hi,
the only records of a pub in the small hamlet of Stroat, about three miles to the north east of Chepstow on what is now the A48 to Gloucester, along the banks of the River Severn at Map reference (approximate). ST 573976, show the pub to have been opposite Stroat
House.
The property though likely to be much changed is now a domestic dwelling known as Stroat Hill Cottage.

The George (and Dragon?)

It is uncertain as to whether the pub was named after King George or Saint George.

 

In the light of the early records of the pub it could well have been in memory of King George I who had died in 1727 or King George II who reigned from 1727 to his death in 1760.

 

The pub was known, at various times, as both the George and the Stroat Inn.

 

When known as the George in 1744 it was also  the meeting place of the Tidenham manor court, though its apparent size as at today indicates a small and far from formal court!

 

In 1891 the annual rateable value was £16.5s.0d.

The Pub had a six day license, presumably closed on Sundays.

 

Presumably the names listed below were of the landlords who were seemingly residents of the property:

 

1851 & 1856 Joseph Stephens (aged 35 in 1851 census)

 

1876 Abraham Turner

 

1885 Walter Lewis

 

1891 James Lewis. (Stroat Inn) Alehouse. Free from brewery tie
(owner John Pullen Rymer)

 

1892 Mrs Lewis (listed as innkeeper, Stroat. No establishment
specified though presumed to have been of The Stroat Inn)

 

1902 James Lewis

 

It is believed that the pub was sold, either in late 1902 or shortly t6hereafter and that it sold to two sisters of the Stroat House household who were offended by ‘The Demon Drink’ and totally refurbished the establishment as a dwelling, stripping out all features and semblance of it having been a pub.

 

I have as yet been unable to find any further record of the pub or early pictures of the property and would greatly appreciate any further information for as the present owners assure me they do not even hold deed as the property is covered by The Land Registry.

 

Regards,

Greg_L-W.

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STROAT POST OFFICE – History & Details

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/10/2014

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STROAT POST OFFICE – History & Details

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Hi,
perhaps you can help – I do hope so!
Penny_Black_sheet
I received an ‘e’Mail a few days ago from John Hine asking for help:

Dear Greg,

I am busy with an investigation into the history of Gloucestershire Post Offices and their postmarks.
 
There was a PO in Stroat from 1932 until 1971 but I have very little further information. Can you help with more details, PO photos or envelopes/cards with Stroat postmarks? 

The other information that I do have is from an official source dated 13 July 1932 that a Post Office was to open in Stroat and that the head office was Chepstow. 

On 7 March 1934 the Stroat PO was given Telegraph Office (T.O.) status and used the telegraphic code XLE for official business. 

The Stroat Post Office was closed in 1971. 

 
John Hine
If anyone can supply more information, photographs or postal history material – whether covers postmarked Stroat or collection and distribution details it would be much appreciated.
Penny_Black_cover
Information such as which buildings were used, who were the postmasters, was the post office open all day, was it just a post officer or a village shop etc. etc. – any information would be of help.
do call me with any facts on 01594-528 337 or eMail me on:
Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com
Stroat Post Office closed 43 years ago so there must be many who remember its latter years even someone who remembers or at least know of 82 years ago when it opened!
I am sure that when John Hine completes his research he will be happy to provide a copy for publication of the details of Stroat Post Office’s history and details for this web site – so please try to help him.
I can add some information supplied by Mary Brown whose parents Vi and Charlie Lewis lived and raised her at Stroat PO.

Mary’s Grandmother opened the Post Office on 13-jul-1932 and her parents took over in the bad winter of 1947 – the winter in which I carried out my first intelligent action, leaving Britain for the markedly better weather of India!

Vi & Charlie Lewis then ran the PO until it closed in 1971.

I hope to meet with Mary Brown in the near future, as she has promised a wealth more information and anecdotes, which I will post here for all to read and hopefully see as she may have some interesting local photographs.
Thanks,
Greg_L-W.
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The Rising Sun, Woodcroft – An Asset For Stroat?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/10/2014

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The Rising Sun, Woodcroft –

An Asset For Stroat?

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Hi,
The RISING SUN - Woodcroft 02
although not in Stroat itself: The Rising Sun Pub (currently closed since 2012) is one of the closest rural meeting places for Stroat residents being easily accessible in Woodcroft – therefore I include this article from The Foresrt Review which brings the matter up to date:

Rising Sun bid sinks

Wednesday, 22 October 2014

THE owners of a disused Forest pub have failed in their bid to have it removed from a list of community assets.

The Rising Sun at Woodcroft near Chepstow was placed on the Forest Council’s list of community assets at the request of a campaign group that wants to see it reopened as a pub.

Owners Worthy Developments appealed against the listing of the pub as a community asset.

Once a local facility, such as a pub, is put on the list an owner must tell the council if it intends to sell it.

A community interest group then has six weeks in which to be asked as a potential bidder and the sale cannot take place for six months.

At the end of six months it is entirely up to the owner whether a sale goes through, to whom and for how much.

The pub closed in around February 2012 and was bought in October 2012 by Worthy Developments.

Residents formed a ‘Save Our Sun’ committee to get it reopened as pub, shop and delivery stop to be run by a not-for-profit organisation.

Worthy Developments argued that the pub had a history of commercial failure and suggested that Judge Nicholas Warren look at the last five years of its operation.

The owners argued that to comply with the terms of the Localism Act — under which the pub was listed as a community asset — it had to be shown that the Rising Sun had been in beneficial use to the area for a substantial part of the last five years.

The owners said there had been several unsuccessful tenants and in the five years the pub had only operated for 11 or 18 months.

Judge Warren, sitting as chamber president of a first tier tribunal in Cardiff, said that Parliament had not specified five years in the Act and it was ‘illogical’ to seize on that time period.

At the time of the hearing a planning application to convert the Rising Sun into two houses was still outstanding but the Forest Council subsequently rejected it.

Judge Warren said he took into account the detailed appraisals produced by the owners of the viability of the Rising Sun returning to use.

He added: “I accept these demonstrate that there are obstacles. It is important, however, not to confuse commercial viability with what altruism and community effort can achieve.

“The calculations advanced by Worthy Development Ltd do not, in my view, demonstrate that the committee’s plans are not realistic.”

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UNDERWOOD FARM, Rosemary Lane, STROAT NP16 7LX

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/10/2014

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UNDERWOOD FARM, Rosemary Lane,
STROAT NP16 7LX.
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UNDERWOOD FARM, Rosemary Lane,
Stroat, NP16 7LX
STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM Exterior Front 02
For Sale @£795,000 01-Dec-2014
Full description:
Detached farm cottage set in a smallholding with grounds in excess of 43 acres.
Benefits include various outbuildings,
STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM OUTBUILDING01STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM OUTBUILDING06 STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM OUTBUILDING04STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM OUTBUILDING03STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM OUTBUILDING05
detached two storey barn, formal garden and views towards the River Severn.
STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM VIEW 01STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM VIEW 03STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM VIEW 04
A registered smallholding set in excess of 43 acres with picturesque and panoramic landscaped sweeping views of the River Severn. The property, a detached farm cottage principally stone built, occupies an elevated position with a number of outbuildings and stables. The accommodation comprises of living room, snug, study, kitchen/utility and cloakroom to the ground floor. To the first floor are three bedrooms and bathroom.Externally twin gates open onto a driveway with a parking and turning area. Benefits include a detached two storey stone barn, twin garage/workshop, various sheds and stable block. There is a formal garden to the side having vegetable cultivation area with poly tunnel and fruit trees.
STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM VEG GARDEN 02
Located in the hamlet of Stroat enjoying access to Bristol and the West Country via the Severn Bridge at Chepstow, Cardiff and South Wales, Gloucester and the Forest of Dean via the A48. The towns of Chepstow and Lydney being 4 and 7 miles distance respectively, offering a wider range of facilities and amenities.

ACCOMMODATION
STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM VEG GARDEN 01
REAR ENTRANCE PORCH
Hallway with stairs to the first floor, radiator, double glazed window to the side.

CLOAKROOM
W.C., radiator, double glazed window to the rear.

KITCHEN/UTILITY ROOM
20′ x 7’10” (6.1m x 2.39m)

STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM KITCHEN 01
STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM KITCHEN 02
Range of base and wall units, integrated dishwasher, fridge, double oven and grill with ceramic 5 ring hob over, tiled floor, tiled splashbacks, combination boiler, understairs cupboard.LIVING ROOM/SNUG
20′ x 9′ (6.1m x 2.74m)

STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM SNUG 01
This room has cooking facilities to include solid fuel Rayburn (disconnected) secondary cooking area, base units, two radiators, UPVC double glazed windows to the front and side.LIVING ROOM
20′ x 11’10” (6.1m x 3.61m)

STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM LIVINGROOM 01
Multi fuel stove, double glazed window to the side, double glazed window to the front, two radiators.FRONT ENTRANCE PORCH
Front door entrance hallway, dual aspect double glazed window to the side, oak glazed doors to the study and living room, radiator.

STUDY
13’3″ x 9’11” (4.04m x 3.02m)
Window to the front.

FIRST FLOOR LANDING
Half landing, access to loft with skylight. (There are three loft spaces in total).

LOFT SPACE
21’2″ x 15′ (6.45m x 4.57m)
Currently utilised as a bedroom/den, usable room. Access via pull down ladder to boarded loft space, carpeted with electric light and roof lights.

BEDROOM ONE
12’11” x 12′ (3.94m x 3.66m)

STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM BEDROOM 01
Window to the front with panoramic views, radiator.BEDROOM TWO
10′ x 9’3″ (3.05m x 2.82m)

STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM BEDROOM 02
Built in wardrobes, radiator, window to the front with panoramic views.BEDROOM THREE
12’9″ x 7’9″ (3.89m x 2.36m)

STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM BEDROOM 03
Radiator, window to the side.BATHROOM

STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM BATHOOM 01
Three piece white suite comprising panelled bath with shower over, W.C., pedestal wash hand basin, towel rail, window to the side, towel rail.OUTSIDE

STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM Exterior Front 01
The land situated to the side and rear of the main cottage area, extends in excess of 43 acres. Two gates open onto a driveway providing a parking and turning area. There is a second separate access to land, barns and stables. There are various sheds, outbuildings, workshops, tack room, cowshed and stables. The formal garden lies to the side of the property with vegetable cultivation area, poly tunnel and fruit trees.CARPORT
20′ x 13′ (6.1m x 3.96m)
Attached to the preparation room.

PREPARATION ROOM

STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM UTILITY ROOM 01
Currently used for functions and has commercial fridge/freezers.TWIN GARAGE/WORKSHOP
27′ x 25’3″ (8.23m x 7.7m)

STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM OUTBUILDING02
Power and light, pot-bellied stove.DETACHED TWO STOREY STONE BARN

STROAT, ROSEMARY LANE, UNDERWOOD FARM OUTBUILDING06
Feature barn.HOT TUB AND SWIMMING POOL
The hot tub is located at the front of the property. The swimming pool requires a new lining and is also located at the front.

ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP SCHEME
The owners currently have an annual income through this scheme. (To be verified through your solicitor). The Environmental Stewardship Scheme is an agri-environment scheme that provides funding to farmers and other land managers in England to deliver effective environmental management on your land.

TENURE
We are advised FREEHOLD to be verified through your solicitor.

DIRECTIONS
From Chepstow take the A48 towards Lydney/Gloucester. On entering the village of Stroat turn left into Rosemary Lane. After approximately .45 mile, Underwood Farm will be found on the left hand side.
From The Internet Site of Rightmooves
Sales Literature of Bidmead.Cook
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-48356045.html#

Also:
@ Zoopla
The Underwood small holding was at some time formerly owned by Ivor Davies, now in 2015 aged 82 – Ivor tells me that he built most of the outbuildings during his tenure and finally sold up some 40 years ago for £11.000.

Ivor Davies, who still lives locally at Netherend has promised to come and visit me and believes he can provide a wealth of details both anecdotal and detailed as he was born on the property.

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